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Keep Your Feet Moving with TShane Johnson



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Gary Pinkerton hosts former Marine and author of Hike Across America, TShane Johnson. They discuss the start of his career in the mortgage industry. TShane gives us insight into his books Hike Across America and Done by 2:30: The Essential Guide to a Successful Work Life Balance. He ends with his experiences in the Great Recession and how it was a period of life change.

Announcer 0:04
Welcome to the heroic investing show. As first responders we risk our lives every day our financial security is under attack. Our pensions are in a state of emergency. A single on duty incident can alter or erase our earning potential instantly and forever. We are the heroes of society. We are self reliant and we need to take care of our own financial future. The heroic investing show is our toolkit of business and investing tactics on our mission to financial freedom.

Gary Pinkerton 0:38
Welcome to the heroic investing show, a podcast for first responders, members, the military, veterans, and anyone looking to improve their financial future and gain some freedom with their time. We teach America’s heroes how to build passive income, build their startup business and safely grow wealth through real estate and other alternative investments. We have current and prior First Responders put protections systems and a team in place to help them build a life where they can focus on their passion, that service or product that they’re uniquely gifted to share with others, making the world a better place for all of us. My name is Gary Pinkerton and I co host this show with Jason Hartman. This is Episode 206. Today’s guest is t Shane Johnson. T. Shane was enlisted marine serving four years before leaving and starting college, he says for one day, and then he started work in the mortgage industry where he made over a million dollars. His first year in the business at age 23. went on to earn millions more for his companies. He started three companies and then in 2008, it all came crashing down around him like it did everyone else who was tied to that market, living out of his car for a while. He restored everything again, went on in that industry to other great heights and then got inspired Do things for veterans out there and for homeless and he is hiked, ran across the country multiple times, set records with ultra marathons and has become also a motivational speaker, corporate sales coach and best selling author. You’ve got to know that an individual who’s done all of that has a chip on your shoulder and Shane has plenty of chips on his shoulder and one of which is proven that he can come back and he was put in the hospital. When he was riding his motorcycle, while still an enlisted marine was taken out intentionally by a gang and slammed into a brick building. He lost four of his six pints of blood flatlined three times after walking to fire department to get assistance. This is a man that doesn’t quit you’re really going to enjoy this interview. Please check out t Shane at his websites and get a copy of that book. Well, the rock investors wait till you hear this one. I’ve got He Shane with mi T. Shane Johnson, a former Marine or I guess, always a marine. So a Marine who served four years on active duty. He has some amazing stories. And so we started as I always do, talking about this off air. And I said, Bo, TJ and stop, I need to get this on air. So here we are, first and foremost. Welcome, my friend. Thanks for joining us.

TShane Johnson 3:19
Yeah, my pleasure, sir. Thank you.

Gary Pinkerton 3:21
Absolutely. So, teaching, take us back to you can go before Marine Corps if you want but at least go back to Marine Corps and walk us through the craziness that is your life.

TShane Johnson 3:29
Yeah. So for one Thank you for having me on the show. I’m really excited about it always loved gardening with other other veterans and share our perspective. So it’s very exciting to be able to do that. probably pretty typical for an enlisted marine. So I had the I grew up in a small town in Gulf Coast of Florida, Arcadia rodeo cow town. I’d love to tell you that up I had that true patriotic want to serve my country. I just don’t think that was the case. I had to get away from my dad. He had worked me entirely too hard growing up so let the record be easier than working for my dad grew up on a 365 acre cattle ranch And you know, it was one of those up at four in the morning building fins. Yeah, cows, you know, all day every day hustle so

Gary Pinkerton 4:06
far we’re flowing on parallel lives. Yeah, dairy farm and my goal. One goal to join the service was to get out of

TShane Johnson 4:13
out of that. You got it? Yeah. So it’s a pretty again, pretty stereotypical. So I went through high school, I wouldn’t say I was a great student. You know, my father was a single dad, I had a blind handicapped brother, and my younger sisters. So my dad was trying to do all of that he also worked for the prison system. So that was kind of his his true day job to help support as much as I could to play a role in the family. But I think my time came and ended up joining the Marine Corps at 17. And three days later, after graduation, I got out of there and went to Parris Island. So that was, I always say, you know, when I give a lot of my speeches, there’s two times you were born, the one your mom gave you, the one your drill instructor gave you so it was my second birth. And I was I was very fortunate. I was surrounded by I was in Third Battalion, platoon 3064 I graduated undergrad to my class I was number one out of my class picked by my peers, which was pretty cool. And then my Marine Corps career did really well I was I was kind of the poster child I was meritoriously promoted three times I made to the fleet. I was already a lance corporal by selling even got to the fleet and ended up with Third Battalion, fourth Marines in Twentynine Palms, first duty station, and I started about a year and a half there, and then I went to Okinawa. I attempted to go for fifth force recon at the time, which was out in Okinawa. I think that was time during the military was kind of really downsizing and cutting funds quite a bit the Marine Corps, so they wanted to go to battalion recon versus force and then I would have to stay in open hour so I didn’t want to do that. I want to go back to the States. So I’m back to the states with 341 I palms and ended up joining took the dog and pass them on to first Reconnaissance Battalion in Camp Pendleton. So I started with first recon for about a year of course, you know, that was 1902. So 911 was right around that time. Just before while I was going through with first recon, they were part of a It was an OJT program. So you didn’t go to the normal BRC or a RS three months school. At that time, they just didn’t have enough funds and billets to do it. So they kind of did like an OJT program. So they were running us new guys through it. And I think they gave us three days off and we were right in the middle of pre scuba. So the operators a lot of the guys were getting ready to go to combat dive. So they were taking all those newbies and running them with them. So we were doing scuba, so we just pull work all the time. So just best shape your life you could possibly be in work. He said, yeah, go work. Yeah, they just put us in the pool every single day. So they gave us about three days off and it was either stay in the barracks and get hazed about a couple of corporals or, you know, in a good way, or get out and go hang out with one of my buddies for a couple of days. So I left the base went off the back of the base. And at the time, there were some gangs that were targeting military off the back of the base and a car had hit me on my motorcycle about 45 miles an hour. I caught the corner of a brick house at 45 miles an hour across my chest broke my collarbone, shoulder blade ribs. All my ribs shattered punctured all my major organs, spleen liver kidney was sliced. They 350 since this whole pieces went into my lungs, they robbed me kind of left me there for dead my left bicep was lacerated and I ended up bleeding out four pints of blood out of six pints. I think your body totally holds. So they didn’t help me. So I walk two blocks to a fire station, taking one full breath every minute. And I got there got down on the knees bleeding out all replace. They happen to have a doctor on site. Anyways, long story short, they had a helicopter come in. I died three times flatlined out three times. They brought me back three different times lost 54 pounds in two weeks. And then I was in CCU ICU for probably four months on a civilian. They couldn’t put me back on the military base because of my lung capacity. And then, let’s see. So about six months of that I actually went back to my unit, completely healed about six to eight months later, I was back with recon, just kind of finishing up healing up and then of course, 911 happens. And my unit was deploying to Hawaii to get ready to get prepared to head overseas. I was sitting there and I remember the battalion General, was in the gym all the time. So I was just trying to get myself back into shape doing the pool hitting the gym in the gym. And he started talking to me and he says, you know, you sound too smart to be a Marine, what do you do in the Marine Corps? And I said, Well, I wasn’t smart enough in school, you know, I said, he says, well, there’s there’s a difference between IQ and EQ. And he said, I think your EQ might be a little higher. He says, you know, you need to get out and go do something. He says you could, or either, you know, become an officer and lead Marines or do something more because I just think you’re in the in the wrong spot. So I figured, well, I’d beat death three times. It kind of earned my stripes for that. So I thought, give it a go. So he signed off on my paperwork to go to school. So I got out, I attempted to go to college for one day. I think the teacher at the time showed up late I was kind of sitting in the room just looking at this going, I don’t know how I’m gonna be able to do this. This doesn’t work with my style. So I went and applied for jobs back then resumes you know, so I just sent it off axis faxes, and my And oftentimes, like, you know, you’re gonna get a real job rather than working at the gym or doing something. So I ended up landing a job working in the mortgage industry. I honestly had no clue what it was. I went to interview the first day and they said, What are you doing now? So I’m selling gym memberships, you know, working like 100 hours a week just doing my thing and kind of like it not not that big of a deal. And I liked it because I could wear a tie. You know, I could go and wear a tie look nice, like count was negative like 187 bucks and have a whole lot of money. I spent the rest of money I had on trying to look decent for the interview. I remember my good friend, I was actually just chatting with him last night, my boss at the time he he said, You know when you come in here and sit down for a second, right? So he had another guy come in, and he puts this piece of paper down in front of me and he says, You see that? And I said, Well, yeah, and and he goes, you see that number? And I said, Yes, that’s $66,000 and I was like, Man, you made that in a year. I was like, holy cow. He didn’t go to college. You’re here you’re making $66,000 a year like, this is amazing. You know what I have to do? And he says, No, that was last month. And I was like, I don’t even care if this is legal at this point for $66,000 A month, like you guys are sitting in the air conditioning on the phones, I was like, I’ll give it a go, you know? So he says, Well, you know, we’ll give you a shot. So I joined, I ended up actually making like $68,000, my first full month in that business after training. It was an interesting change for me, because, you know, we grew up what people would consider relatively poor, and I’m struggling, and then I understood the concept of what I was defending for so long, you know, the ability to be able to be a part of this country that’s so great that if you could work really, really hard, you can be compensated for it, which is the military, you know, it’s not like that. It’s a little different of a platform, you can work really, really hard and your paycheck still is the same. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed the aspect of putting in the work. So then I just knew it was really simple. I just had to outwork everybody in the room, I didn’t have to be smart. So that’s how I felt like I made my first real money is I just kind of went after that with a vengeance. I look when you’ve died three times and you’ve been through what I’ve been through, and I already know that the other side’s good to go right. I already know that. I’m going to be okay, life’s gonna be alright. Things are going to move on on that side. So why not take a little bit of risk out here? In this world, so I just kind of live by that philosophy and and went at it. And I was perfect timing, perfect opportunity I did did really well. And I was shoot 2324 I was probably managing at least 200 and 50 million a year in sales. And then over the course of you know, quite a few years in the business a few billion dollars 26 I actually went out on first opportunity to be an entrepreneur for two years and then 2008 happened, the recession happened and I just got kicked in the teeth really well without one. Good Life loss and good humbling moment.

Gary Pinkerton 11:29
That’s incredible. So how much money had you made before? 2008?

TShane Johnson 11:33
Oh, I don’t know a few million dollars. Probably.

Gary Pinkerton 11:36
You’re a millionaire. You tell me off air by like 23. Right,

TShane Johnson 11:40
right after the first year, that first year I went out it pretty hard. I think I cleared just over a million dollars. So first year.

Gary Pinkerton 11:45
And you know, you made a point that I made just this last week when I was when I was traveling and speaking that for all of our faults, this experiment that we started 250 years ago with some really, really brave people in a in a Small, you know, a few small built, they took four years actually to do it. But they created this thing called the constitution that focused on life, liberty and property and enabled us to go do exactly what you just explained. I learned the exact same thing that you know, the military is is incredible. But a fixed income with a ceiling is does not necessarily create the capabilities, the resources that we want to go out and actually, you know, do the huge things we’re going to do in this world.

TShane Johnson 12:23
Yeah, that’s a great point. And that’ll take us down a completely different rabbit hole from from the message I said, during my tour this year actually speak at Independence Hall. It’s one of my stops to probably, I think, a few thousand people. And it’s interesting to me the perception of America today, right? Like, especially from the military community, I sit in a completely different message. So the narrative of the veteran community now is so weak, it’s ridiculous. And I can’t speak for other branches because I didn’t serve for them. But I know being a marine was something that the day I got my eta you know, I cried and cried because I was weak. I was crying because it was the first time in my life where I was able to work really hard, and I Something that very few people will ever try. Not later in life did I understand what that meant, right? When I was old enough and went through and understood about, you know, God Corps and country, and really what it stands for, until I had my daughter, with this great country provides and obviously making the money that I did and having the opportunities. I mean, these are all things I think you have to go through in order to appreciate what it is to be in America, not just serve your country. I think that’s one small portion of it. But you know, the narrative now is, is that, you know, everything is given to a veteran, you know, because they serve. And I absolutely hate that thought process. I hate it with a passion. Because I think we’re at an advantage right, a massive advantage. We especially Marine Corps, you know, the 14 leadership principles of an NCO, you know, we’ve been given 270 plus years of one of the largest dominating corporations in the entire world of leadership, knowledge and training passed on to us. I mean, we are laser focused. The fact that we’re not out there and people aren’t complaining that we’re just not dominating the business sector, or they’re we’re not out there. Just crying. rushing entrepreneurship or that every time you turn around another veteran doing another success. Instead, it’s another veteran that’s, I need something or give me something. And you know, there’s a few pop a few small pools of leaders. And nowadays that should be us that should be the veterans be we should be walking out into the country, and not pointing one finger and saying one person is going to make it right, we should be doing exactly what we did with our units and saying that we know that it takes all of us in order to do and we have to lead from the front. And we’re just not doing that as a whole. And I blame that on the fact that if we’re going to complain about it, we have to lead lead not lead follow, right. So to me, the idea is, is that if I’m going to complain, I better do something. And if I can do something, at least show others can be done, then at least then I can stand up a little higher and say, Well, if I’m doing and I’m a knucklehead, then I know that you can get out there and do it with a lot more of the resources you have. So the military is an advantage, not a disadvantage. It’s actually something that I was having a conversation with somebody and somebody As you know, the veteran should get something for free and everybody get everything for free and everything. And I said, Well, I said, actually, that already exists. I said, you want free college, join the military, you want health care for life, join the military, you want a pension, join the military, I said that program already is it’s been around for quite some time. It’s actually a great program for four years. You know how much I get for that. I couldn’t go work for Verizon tattoo Verizon on my arm and walk out to you know, a pool somewhere and someone comes and says, Oh, my gosh, thank you so much for working for Verizon. I mean, it they’re not, you know, it’s an amazing thing, being part of the military. And I just feel like we’re not taking advantage of it as much So anyways, soapbox,

Gary Pinkerton 15:35
yeah, so maybe so I love the fact that you know, clearly every veteran out there and every citizen out there would probably say that. They love the attitude towards the military, what companies do for the military as compared to what it was in Vietnam, right. Like I was around. I was a kid in Vietnam world, Vietnam era and my boss at the Naval Academy was a three star Admiral and he just joined right near the end of the Vietnam War, and he and it was still draft time. And he was like, This is horrible the way people treated him but also the quality of the of the people in the military. You know, so obviously much better. But I think what you’re saying is that as opposed to become an entitled for

TShane Johnson 16:15
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it’s, it’s a gift, not something that I should Oh, and people say thank you for your service. I wish Thank you just be the American worth serving. I mean, that’s why I did it. I mean, I have the best. I have free college, I’ve got free healthcare, I’ve got free things. If I if I get hurt, I got workman’s comp for life. I’ve got all of these things, you know, I’ve got free medical. I mean, it just blows my mind. When you think about the things that I’ve done for just four years. That’s a heck of an ROI for an organization. There’s not one Corporation out there that’s going to do that forever. And then what kind of person would I be? What kind of marine would I be if I just sat on the sidelines and just said, Well, that’s it for me. I’m not going to contribute back to society or protect the civilian population or show more veterans that Listen, you don’t have to be a product of that environment, you can do more.

Gary Pinkerton 16:57
Absolutely. So I would like to go back to The next thing so 2008 little bit of it. You said it’s a it’s a tough time in your life. I would say I would argue that it’s a little bit more than a tough time. Yeah, I did dig a little more into that until that part of the story.

TShane Johnson 17:12
Yeah, so I think with anything you have challenges, right? So probably the humbling is a little better. You know, I had two beautiful homes had a nice car, I wasn’t married and have any children at the time. But you know, when with money comes a lot of people out of the woodwork. So everybody needs help, or everybody’s got a story or something. So, you know, you’re spending a lot of time and your money helping those people and then when you don’t have anything, she get a lot of time to reflect. So I spent about two years going through that and I live in out of my car, my sister, God bless her. I love her but she was just going through some really tough excuse me time and she had my my younger nephew. Her husband was an army vet. He committed suicide and end up hanging himself with fish and wire in the back of the back of the house in a little shed and left my nephew father listen and my sister obviously couldn’t handle it very well went into a completely different direction. So here, I will Pretty much homeless, for the most part hardly had any money and was taking care of an infant, trying to do the best I could with that. And again, one minute, you’re doing great, the next minute you’re getting kicked in the teeth. At the time, I was pretty angry about it. But I just went back to think the things that taught me the Marine Corps embrace the suck and figure it out. And through some trials and tribulations, about two and a half years later, I ended up building three more companies that did about 40 million a year in sales out of the back of my car. Honestly, using free Wi Fi at dunkin donuts. I always say if I ever get the opportunity to partner with Dunkin, it’s going to be the best thing in my life. Because you know, that free internet saved my life, you know, wasn’t just $1 snack wrap. So you know, and everything else was just the the opportunity to be able to go in there and use my computer and use that resource to be able to do more with it. So and then that was pretty much that portion of after 2008.

Gary Pinkerton 18:48
Wow, that’s awesome. And so you were still in the mortgage industry, though, or did you exactly exit from that?

TShane Johnson 18:55
Yeah. So I actually for that from two years because the licensing changed because of Frank Dodd act. So there was a lot A lot of things that happen of course, my credit got shot. So, you know, there were a lot of requirements and things that played that I couldn’t get back in, I had to really work hard towards that. So it took me two years to because one of my companies was another mortgage company. And I had to actually sit in front of the NCC, Adobe in North Carolina, with my nephew, you know, I had no transportation it was it was just some crazy, crazy times. Yeah, it was crazy. I remember them saying, you know, well, in order for you to get your license, you’re going to have to pay back these collections. I’m like, Well, I barely have enough food to eat. And if I don’t have a license, I can’t work. And if I can’t work, how am I going to pay back? Pick this stuff? It doesn’t really make any sense. You know, the way this business is now, just because I got hit doesn’t mean I’m not good at my job. You know, it’s really crazy time. But the lady I think felt some pain for me gave me a conditional license, and then it gave me another shot. So I did what I did best I you know, went hustle. And it was funny because you know, there’s there’s a lot to those stories, but I remember I just got my conditional license, and I had been working for this organization and I was selling and I think I had like a $35,000 check coming me it was like really fast. I Got right back into it. It was like I never missed a beat. I was doing really well. And I were supposed to get the checks and I was starving man it was hurting and the company went bankrupt. And they didn’t cut checks they kept my money. And I from pepper Cohen man and I was having to walk everywhere. At that time I had lost my car, actually a girl to hit it and I didn’t even have my car. And I was walking everywhere. It was cold. Florida boys in North Carolina snow was coming through, you know, barely getting close. I had socks over my hands. I was going down into really bad areas riding the bus. You know, I got robbed one night I watched the guy get shot in the face and the entire apartment complex burndown It was funny because it’s not funny. But looking back on it, that whole complex was on fire. And the bus couldn’t get to the next station to connect because the fire was blocking it. So I was like, I can’t wait. I’m gonna run so I got off the bus in my business attire and I’m running so it looks like when the cops pull up that I’m running away from the fire like I’m the one that lit it and ran off so they chase after For me, and they catch me and the guy’s like, you know what? And I said, Man, I’ve just, I can’t miss this next stop. I’m not gonna get home till two in the morning. I’ve got my nephew, I’ve got to try to pick up. I was just in crazy times, you know, a lot of months. But yeah, it’s good times.

Gary Pinkerton 21:13
So now you’re a coach in a large room speaker, a professional speaker, I guess, and a mentor. And so how do we get there?

TShane Johnson 21:23
Yeah, good question. So I started my other companies. They started doing really well got back in the mortgage business again and again, was doing doing really well with that. Started diversifying my business model learning from my mistakes. Being a speaker something I think that’s just always kind of came natural to me. I’ve never been scared in front of rooms. I’ve went through so much leadership and sales training, that you know, I was just put in uncomfortable situations and a lot of stuff that I did in sales all the time on the phones, paying attention to people I don’t know, you know, I’m beginning to think it maybe it was just a knack I had and it just people would want me to come speak here and speak here and speak here and I started utilizing it more But I realized that, you know, people never remembered anything I said, they always remember how I made them feel. And I remember telling my story of my experience of my motorcycle accident, everything I’ve been through and just people connecting so much. I thought, Gosh, what a powerful way to help change people, you know, they’d come up with some in your story. And I never wanted to be a speaker because I never thought my story was good enough. You know, I didn’t think I was Zig Ziglar or Les Brown or an Earl Nightingale. You know, I just figured I was just some regular sales guy that could probably, you know, spit words a little better than someone else. And it wasn’t till probably about four years ago, I was running my mortgage company. And we were doing a lot of business up in eglon. Nintendo because I was all military mortgage company, just specifically working with military only hiring military, direct family members of military. I wanted to change the way the business was done, because it’s still not done correctly. You know, the way it’s charged and the way it’s sold. I wanted to change that models are really started focusing on that. And it was weird, you know, the first thing I did is I established a company chaplain because my conversations turned more about mortgages in Two guys that are going to commit suicide or guys needed advice, or how do they do this and it was really weird. It wasn’t like just mortgages. It was all these issues that weren’t being addressed. So I’m working with a real estate agent up in Panama City and phenomenal lady and she comes to me and tells me about this, this Vietnam vet that had his I want to say his left leg amputated due to the fact of lack of transportation and gotten gangrene in it. At the time there they would take a shuttle bus from Panama City to Pensacola, which was two hours to the VA. And they had to walk anywhere between eight and 15 miles asleep on park benches. And if they missed the bus, you know, you know the VA, they would get another appointment for three to six months at the time. So it was just lack of transportation. He was you know, salty Vietnam vet, he didn’t want to ask anybody for open, ended up having his leg cut. He’s just like the heck with it, cut it off. I don’t wanna feel the pain anymore. It kind of blew my mind. It blew my mind because Navy Federal at the time had done $1 billion worth of business in Pensacola had about 3000 employees and there was a homeless vets on the side of the street. I just thought even if you didn’t care, it was just really bad marketing. You could clean it up and turn that into a good PR story, you know, and if you actually care, it’s a plus two. So I thought, Man, a little brokerage, I’m going to do something. So I go back, I reached out to a couple of Marine Corps buddies of mine, and I said, Hey, you know what, and this was before running across the country or across America was a commodity. It’s almost like everybody’s doing it now. But I said, Why don’t we hike for awareness? And let’s start there. Like in any business, we’ll market it. So the first year I did 22 days at 22 miles a day, obviously 22 veterans commit suicide was a branded number. So you know, we wanted to raise awareness about that. And I wanted to connect with the communities. I wanted to really find out what the issues are, what’s going on with VFW and American legions, you know, where’s money going? What are people doing with it? It was what I guess would be considered a success. You know, we got to understand a little bit more about what’s going on. But it was right around election time, right. I think right before Trump got elected. It was just a crazy time through the panhandle. And I was I was probably about a week away. from finishing up the hike and I was like, you know what I think we need to go across the country with this. I think we need to connect with different cities, different peoples to different people, different groups. So I fortunately partnered with a couple of great organizations and I put together a 20 city nine state speaking tour, where I ran over 3000 miles across America, handing out and helping over 10,000 homeless veterans and hygiene kits with hygiene kits. I slept in homeless shelters along the way, we filmed a documentary so that we can engage and find out exactly what’s going on. At the time. The whole project was self funded by me and my mortgage company. We went into it with an approach of just trying to really understand what’s going on, traveled through all those cities. I ran marathons on Saturdays to engage in a bigger audience while I did that, so every morning I’d get up I’d run 22 miles, I ran the all three of my businesses. I made time for my daughter, give back to the homeless every day we were speaking or and I was helping feed or engage or giveaway or do something within the community. I was also going to speak to large corporations that was part of our their CSR platform. So we talked tell them about my story, and then Afterwards, we put together hygiene kits, and then we would go and distribute to the shelters and then also talk with them. It was a huge success. It was interesting to see different states, different counties, different people, and then get a good story of what truly is what’s wrong with the country’s, you know, problems. We say, you know, social media is a mirror, it’s a mirror of what you want, because it’s a retargeted platform. The concept is to make you buy more things you like not something different. So it doesn’t allow you to open up your views like you do when you actually go and communicate with people and going across the country in different places, talking to the homeless, you know, and understanding who is homeless, you know, homelessness is something that hasn’t even been rebranded it’s just insane. It’s a market segment that hasn’t been even approached from a marketing and branding standpoint, because when you think homeless, everyone thinks drugs, alcohol addiction and panhandling, you know, when in fact it’s middle class, you know, and it blows your mind because the actual homeless, the ones that that aren’t middle class, have it easier, you know, they can go somewhere and get their teeth fixed. They can go somewhere and get health care. They can go some If they’re really struggling, there is some great person out there willing to help. But if you’re a middle class if your actual working class parent, whether you’re a single parent or a two family home and you’re out there paying your taxes and paying your healthcare and paying your childcare and paying your car and paying your mortgage and living what is considered the marketing platform of the American dream, you’re drowning, you’re one crisis away from being truly homeless. You’re one crisis away from losing your children are one crisis away from a divorce. You know, one financial hit one medical hit one job loss, one hurricane, one problem hits you one divorce, and you’re out on the streets. And

Gary Pinkerton 27:36
you’re saying that you’re you’re kind of saying that there’s a lot of people that are almost homeless, they have no savings, they have expenses that equal their income. And it just takes one even low level hit to make them almost,

TShane Johnson 27:49
you got it. Yeah, that’s what I mean. It’s I mean, I saw in the mortgage industry every single day, you know, you would never know someone’s income and you would see it all the time that they were just barely trying to buy a home which is technically a lot liability not an asset. They’re just racking up more liabilities because of, you know, perception of what it should be and lack of financial, you know, understanding of what to do with your money. So anyways, we really connected it just it turned into a big thing. I ended up running a couple ultras, a couple of 40 something half miles, I did 30 hours straight 100 miles down the PCH towards the end. I mean, it was just it was a great campaign. We connected with a lot of people. year three, I started really wondering, I saw a lot of children, a lot of homeless children, a lot of homeless teens started peeling it back the layers, you know, realizing that they just in here in in Orlando in Orange County, there was almost 4000 homeless teens, and 1.7 million on any given night throughout the US and over 935 attempt suicide a day, which is way bigger numbers than the veteran community. And it was just amazing. So I partnered with a great organization in here in Claremont pink bow, I did 1700 miles carrying a 100 pound pack every day raising awareness for homeless teens and help that organization raise some funds. And then now this is my fourth year. And this one is, is is basically the byproduct of the last three years. And what I’ve noticed is that I was just recently on Fox Business with stuart varney. It’s been an amazing last two years, I wrote two number one best selling books. I just finished my third book, which comes out in January, I was able to, you know, effectively run my companies speak across the nation, Forbes, USA Today, a lot of things that we’re building because it seems like people want to hear more about leadership. And it’s such a dying breed in our country today. It’s just it’s gone. It’s gone in our household. It’s it’s gone in our work environments gone in the military community. So this year, we put together an event a grassroots event, we have about 180,000 people that we speak to. We speak in Norfolk on the USS Truman to about 4000 sailors there, but another 1200 Old Dominion a couple football games, Virginia Tech and the halftime show there halftime and Old Dominion, we speak to NYPD FDNY on the kickoff of 911 we have na mayport camp last June Parris Island, we have the White House, the capital, the Pentagon, well, Pentagon spending so, and quite a few other places and Independence Hall, again, probably about 180,000 in total in a closed event venue, you know, so they’re here to hear my story and what I have to say, which is pretty cool. The idea this year is to truly bring back leadership, you know, bring back leadership in all aspects of everything that we do.

Gary Pinkerton 30:25
You mentioned kickoff, 911 are you talking about the time of the towers race? Is that is that what you meant?

TShane Johnson 30:30
No, this is our independent events. So we partnered with Rotary International and the Gary Sinise Foundation, all funds that we’re raising this year, we’ll go towards the Gary Sinise foundation rise project. And then of course, we partner I’m a Rotarian. So we partnered with Rotary International to work with all the rotaries along the east coast to help support and talk about service before self. This is a 1100 mile run, where I will carry a 100 pound pack every day and attempt to break two world records. One being the fastest one mile carrying a 100 pound pack, and that’ll be in the middle of the world. Do you gain and then I will run the fastest marathon carrying a 100 pound pack after I’ve completed the 1100 miles at the end in NASA Space Coast. So yeah, in a nutshell, that’s the start starts on 911. So it’ll be from 911 all the way until I think December 14 is when I finally finished with everything.

Gary Pinkerton 31:19
So that’s amazing. And so you’re 1100 miles dude runs down the east coast. Yep. Awesome. Wow, that’s amazing. So, so much to circle back on and talk about here, but we’re already at a time. Yeah, please give contact information. You know, just mentioned your book if you would.

TShane Johnson 31:34
Yeah, absolutely. So anything social media is at t Shane Johnson. So LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, all you gotta do is type in that handle. If you want to view any of our websites, t Shane inspires calm and hike across america.com.

Gary Pinkerton 31:48
Right, cool. And your most recent book is that

TShane Johnson 31:52
it’s done by 230. The name of the book is done by 230. It’s about my daughter and I the context of the book is talking about how to develop your life and balanced where you can be done by 230 every day to pick your little one up from school.

Gary Pinkerton 32:04
That’s awesome. That’s awesome. And the previous book that got a lot of notoriety was a hack across America. 3000 miles for your WHY? Awesome teaching. My gosh, we got to have you back for about six more episodes and dig, dig down every one of those rabbit holes. I really appreciate what you’re doing out there. It’s incredibly inspiring. So, any parting words? I’m kind of speechless

TShane Johnson 32:24
for one. Thank you so much. I mean, this is what it takes is conversations like ours between our groups and organizations and know that there’s no divide and that we get out there and show them that listen, it doesn’t have to be as well as me story. You know, we can turn this around and be the foundation of what our country really should be, you know, just great hardcore veterans and Americans committing to a lifelong service before self platform.

Gary Pinkerton 32:44
Man, everybody get out there. Meet t Shane, and find out what his website and the man is all about. Thank you so much and Godspeed on these coasts, my friend. My pleasure, sir. Thank you.

TShane Johnson 32:55

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