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US Navy Submarine Lessons for High Performance with RT Stokes



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Gary Pinkerton hosts Navy veteran, author, and Life Mission Coach, RT Stokes. They look at self-significance and purpose as well as how to gain more fulfillment. Stokes shares his journey in the Navy Submarine Fleet and then how he built a small business. He gives us contrast with his work at a global corporation which helped prepare him to support a variety of leadership roles in human resources. He discusses the similarities in the corporate world and those in his military career. This inspired him to share his expertise on high-performance levels.

Announcer 0:04
Welcome to the heroic investing show. As first responders we risk our lives every day our financial security is under attack. Our pensions are in a state of emergency. A single on duty incident can alter or erase our earning potential instantly and forever. We are the heroes of society. We are self reliant and we need to take care of our own financial future. The heroic investing show is our toolkit of business and investing tactics on our mission to financial freedom.

Gary Pinkerton 0:38
Welcome to the heroic investing show, a podcast for first responders, members, the military, veterans, and anyone looking to improve their financial future and gain some freedom with their time. We teach America’s heroes how to build passive income, build their startup business and safely grow wealth through real estate and other alternative investments. We have current and prior for First Responders put protections systems and a team in place to help them build a life where they can focus on their passion, that service or product that they’re uniquely gifted to share with others, making the world a better place for all of us. My name is Gary Pinkerton and I co host this show with Jason Hartman. This is Episode 212, Episode 212. Today we talk with Artie Stokes. RT is an author, speaker and a submarine veteran who helps others dive beneath the surface to discover their greater purpose waiting to rise. As a certified life mission coach, he takes his powerful message of pursuing a relentless rise despite the pressures of life to the public. There his keynotes and, and working one on one with individuals, organizations and companies that he’ll explain during our talk. It was a really, you know, insightful discussion about things he learned during his military career and how he felt found his purpose while he was out working in industry. After serving eight years in the Navy submarine fleet, Stokes spent three years in small business and 10 years at GE Aviation. He supported various leadership roles in human resources and quality. Before he was promoted to a pretty cool position. He was the leader of a group called inspired learning and process innovation and that’s where he found his purpose. During his corporate career, he realized that many people were undergoing daily pressures similar to what he experienced that see out at sea on the USS Kentucky. He was then inspired to share his knowledge of how to operate at your highest performance level under pressure with others and he left the corporate environment to dedicate himself full time to reaching more people and making a difference. Artie Stokes is also the founder of co founder and CEO of the company eclipses and Within that company, he builds digital solutions to support online learning, collaboration and performance for corporations and entrepreneurs. And again, a process that he learned during his last years there in the Navy while he was working at a training facility. So we dig into our T’s new book called the relentless rise, how to break through the surface to find your true self. So his book is available on Amazon and other places that you frequent to get your books. The other thing I wanted to point out, he offered for our audience to reach out to Him and He will connect you up with a series of videos that he’s doing to explain each of the principles in his book and it’s extra material that goes beyond the original book. And he’s got a bunch of basically a workbook that comes with and he explains how to walk through those principles and how to apply them in your life in your work position on the teams that you’re currently working with. This is a great conversation Really appreciate our time. Always fun to have another Submariner on the show here with me. I hope you really enjoy this. Well, heroic investors. Thank you. And as always welcome back. We have a great guest with us today. This guy chose wisely he chose to become an awesome Submariner. And we have with us today Artie Stokes. RT is running a I will call it a coaching mentoring business, a business to help people operate at a higher level, he’ll correct me on that has a new, very newly released book out. I bet you none of you have read it yet because it just came out. Let’s hear from Artie about that. And first and foremost, hearty, thanks for joining us.

RT Stokes 4:44
Thank you. I appreciate you having me on the show and I appreciate you for your service.

Gary Pinkerton 4:49
So Artie, take us through how you ended up being a Submariner and then we’ll get to what your calling is today.

RT Stokes 4:56
Or I initially when I left high school, I wanted to College and thought I knew what I wanted to do. But I didn’t feel that sense of passion and it showed in my performance. After a while I just started to find myself in constant conflict and turmoil because I was unhappy and within. I eventually dropped out of college and decided I wanted to go into the Navy. There were so many areas of conflict that I was experiencing, what I really wanted to accomplish was that sense of honor, courage and commitment. And on my way home for boot camp, I was struck by a driver, it was a suspect who had stolen the vehicle and never saw it coming. I still don’t remember to this day in my life was shattered. At that point in time, I went back to the Navy to start pulling my life back together and I still had this vision of becoming a better person to be a person of honor to be a person of courage and commitment, and going into the submarine just completely changed my life. It was such a great experience, the world that I had been so challenged in previously. was struck down to the size of a small vessel. And inside of that vessel, I just learned all the different principles of operation. So the qualification process of how we would operate in a submarine, I began to apply to how I would operate in my life. And after I left the submarine, I went back to college straight A student, got three degrees while I was in the Navy, ending with my master’s degree, won’t want awards for being one of the top instructors at the training facility and left the Navy to pursue a career on the outside. And the outside. It’s been three years in small business 10 years in a corporate environment, supporting roles such as human resources, and also as a master black belt and quality assurance. And not long after that. Being in the corporate environment. I realized that there were people dealing with the same types of pressures on the surface that I had dealt with on the submarine and that’s why I came up with The idea delight them booked available fly.

Gary Pinkerton 7:02
That’s awesome. So Artie, before we went on air, we realized we had a we were actually on ballistic missile nuclear submarines, the large Ohio class together, not not on the same ship, but we were each on one at the same time. So I meant to say I was on the Michigan, you were on the Kentucky RT, what was your position? What jobs did you have? And also just what was your rating?

RT Stokes 7:25
Sure, I was a strategic weapons supervisor. And when I had the missile technician, so my rate was the missile technician, I served as the strategic weapons supervisor, and the mission in the medical control center. And another responsibility that I took that had a lot to deal with me writing a book was being a lay leader. So dealing with those moments of pressure dealing with those moments of difficulties most difficult when we would receive a message from the Red Cross, I would be the person who would engage with the other submariners. helping them deal with the tough moments in their life being away from shore.

Gary Pinkerton 8:04
Wow. So often everyone’s like wow you were on a nuclear submarine so you had your finger on the button I’m like well not exactly maybe I had a key well this guy though folks had his finger on the button. So so your job was you know taking care of national assets you know member What if you if the listeners out there follow this you know, the triad the nuclear triad that we had back in the cold war and still really do. We had ground based missiles we have the ones the airforce carried around and then we had the ones that the submarines had. And the submarine ones for many reasons are the ones that are you know, most survivable? Because no one knows where they are. We don’t even know where they are. I mean, if you’re not on the ship, obviously the chain of command knows but I’m out there my attacks me trying to find them. Good luck. And so you had a pretty bored job is what I’m saying. And yeah, yeah. I love that one of the primary things you took away from it is the lesson about how to succeed. And that that whole point about qualification process. Ironically, in about a month I’m going to go teach one of my buddies teams he’s got a runs a awesome mortgage company and those of you who are Roque investing listeners have probably heard this episode, and if not, you will soon because we’re going to run a couple more. His name’s Aaron Chapman, just a wonderful guy. But he’s got a team of six or eight people and he wanted me to come out and teach them resiliency, but also qualification redundancy, where everybody knows each other’s job, you know, this stuff right out of the Navy, but tell me or tell us sorry, Artie. What was it that you specifically took from the qualification process that has led to so much success in college and business?

Gary Pinkerton 9:47
Sure. So I thought I thought that the fact that working with strategic weapons placed me in a reliability program. It placed me in a situation where I had to be intentionally wrong And that was something that I really didn’t recognize, prior to going into the Navy, that there are people who will lie upon us whether we are in the military or whether we’re whether we’re citizens, or whoever we are, we just have people who rely upon us for a duty. So I stood up to that I felt that obligation to have a sense of honor and be someone that people could rely upon the actual qualification process I just fell in love with, if you can imagine being an environment where there are rules and processes, and those rules and processes is that if we operate the vessel correctly, we can go into depth and survive pressures that a normal vessel wouldn’t be able to withstand. So I was amazed at the technology of the submarine and I was amazed at the performance of the submarine to be able to operate in environments, but I had to understand that this is how the periscope works. This is how the reactor works. This is how the propulsion of the submarine allows us to move forward. And just being amazed by that technology has started to apply to my own life. So if I understand that we need a stable position, we need to come to a stop. And then we raise the periscope. And that’s how we’re able to understand the context on the surface. In my life, I need to come to a stop, I need to raise myself in my mindset, emotionally, to where I can lift my perspective, my personal Periscope, and then I can understand the context around me and the context of those contacts from a better perspective.

Gary Pinkerton 11:38
Nice. So what is how are you applying it now with your current business or tell tell us a little bit about your current business first?

RT Stokes 11:45
Sure. So my con is, this is really focusing on the content within the book, the relentless ride, the challenges that I see is that the water level in our global ocean as well We’re dealing with a lot more pressure, we see those throughout society, that people are dealing with more pressure time is being more compressed. So we’re trying to do more with less. The headlines that we’re receiving, whether they come through social media or whether they’re quick snippets on TV, we’re getting a lot of emotionally charged information. And what happens is we start digesting those like zip files. So understanding the problems that we’re dealing with with a higher level of pressure, the solution is, how do the people who operate in pressure every day to succeed and that’s where the principles of operation the submarine, allow us to provide methods of success for people on the surface? The two big things that I’m after is, number one, how do we lift our potential above the surface for those people who aren’t struggling but they’re just looking for the next level of success, but they’re It’s safe to write beneath the surface, how do I get above the surface to have the best opportunities to succeed? And then there are those who we don’t see underneath the surface who are at what I call crushing depth, just dealing with problems that are crippling them from allowing crippling them from living a life that’s beneficial.

Gary Pinkerton 13:24
And and how do you approach those individuals? Or is that part of your your kind of mission statement, your goal?

RT Stokes 13:31
Sure, I’ve coached them through coaching. And I’ve taken the seven principles that I pulled from the submarine to apply to human performance behavior and provide them with maps. I provide them with procedures as you would with a submarine for them to be able to work to areas of success.

Gary Pinkerton 13:52
Nice. Okay. How did you end up well, your journey your journey, leaving the submarine leaving, leaving the military Spending, you know, college and then time What did you study in college?

RT Stokes 14:05
And call the study to instructional technology?

Gary Pinkerton 14:08
Okay. And, and then, so it was kind of an extension of your technical field in the military. And then you, you worked in business, as you mentioned for a decade, how how did the transition come to start focusing on helping other people live in a higher game? The coaching side and writing your book? What was it that what signs Did you see I’m trying to kind of pull this out, flesh this out for individuals who maybe are sitting in a position and don’t know exactly where they want to go? What should they look for in their own life?

RT Stokes 14:40
Sure. So after the military three years in small business, I was the master Training Specialist program leader at the Trident training facility. And also I was finalizing my master’s degree in instructional technology. There was a I guess you could say an overall revolution in training. I’m not sure if you remember that. But there was a period of time when the Navy was transitioning a lot of the classroom training to electronic digital online computer based training. So I supported that, and small business for three years. And then when I went to the corporate environment, I supported human resources and also provided a lot of learning development and that area as well. As I started to get more engaged in quality assurance, I came across the topic of change acceleration, how do you apply change to a team, and then allow that team to be able to iterate a lot of change to be effective, allow the change to stick to stay in place, and a team to be successful even though they’re going through a lot of changes. And the mix of being in quality and human resources led me to understand that I needed to consider writing my own book that would effectively allow people to make change in their own lives. have solutions that would stand in solutions that would continue to be viable for years to come.

Gary Pinkerton 16:07
Okay, so you took aspects of the position you’re in, and you saw which ones you were best at. And the ones that you felt like there was a need for that in the, in the business world, and people with their small businesses or even larger teams and companies, and you went after that, and you wrote a book about your approach to it. And now the books out, and you’re gonna allow that to be somewhat of a calling card. B be somewhat of, I guess, also maybe a resume of what you can bring to the teams and and have you it’s really new. So has it Have you been at all down that path quite yet.

RT Stokes 16:49
I have it because of the amount of time that it took to write the book. I’ve been writing the books for roughly two years, because I needed to gain my voice the model The time that I was in corporate, I was doing a lot of talk for the company. And it was a great role that I was in. Gary the name of the role was the inspired learning leader.

Gary Pinkerton 17:10

RT Stokes 17:12
So it was my job and I felt like life had come full circle me being the master trading specialist program leader can pay here I am. Now I’m in the corporate environment on the inspired learning leader and my job is to help employees from an inspired standpoint, understand how to innovate how to iterate allow change, to permeate throughout the organization to allow Cultural Health to improve the overall engagement of employees, and it just translated to me wanting to touch more people, even outside of the corporation. I saw a lot of things going on throughout society, and just the rising pressure and I wanted to find a way to help And I felt like the approach to learning would help externally just as it had internal cooperation.

Gary Pinkerton 18:08
What are some simple steps? I mean, reading the book, that’s a great start. Other than that, what are some simple steps that you can share with with people who are among a team, you know, admit they’re immersed in a team right now that is going through some change offers just kind of big picture advice.

Gary Pinkerton 18:26
Sure. So the book follows seven main principles that translate these principles into their principles for submarine operation that I translate into human performance behaviors. So it’s position control, power, propulsion, Periscope, the tingling the pulse, which is our sonar, and the last one is positive blanching. And I would probably say out of all those, you’re really looking for a sense of positive buoyancy and resilience that we’re seeing a lot of interest Ability emotionally and how people are dealing with the increasing stress across society. So across each chapter, each each one of those seven principles I provide seven, I provide five tactical touch points, the steps that they can take to actually implement these principles into their own lives.

Gary Pinkerton 19:20
Okay, good. What was the third one? I didn’t understand the third one.

RT Stokes 19:24
Sure. The third one is power. Power. Yeah, I’m happy asked about that. So, so power has a lot to do with our energy. Yeah, and I relate power in front of a submarine, which is basically that reactor and that core to understanding the energy that we have inside of us the core that we have, what is the core for your energy? And what are the particles that you have? And how do those particles react? to bring the best energy out of you can be someone who’s incredibly fit. Someone who’s very, very tricky. Have a nutritious meal, you have a great diet, but emotionally, you’re in a situation that causes a drain. So all the energy that you’re provided from your physical standpoint doesn’t translate to performance because of the emotional hindrance that you have. So there’s a lot of great stuff in that power chapter that talks about the overall energy that you can provide.

Gary Pinkerton 20:25
Cool, that’s awesome. Well, as always seems to happen if we blow through the time that I locked for this with with many more questions remaining, but I did want to hold back a few minutes, because I have not yet read the book. And I admitted to that before we came on, and it came out three weeks ago. And I very much look forward to looking or to to reading it. But since I haven’t read it, I want to make sure there’s enough time for you to talk about other things that I haven’t asked like what should I have asked. Some of the strengths of the book are important points. about why somebody needs to go read it or get in contact with you.

RT Stokes 21:03
Sure, the one of the most important things about the book is the framework for some time, when I went on board the submarine for the very first time and close that hatch, I was trying to figure life out. I was concerned that when that submarine returned to shore, I wanted to be a better person, I needed to be a better person. So I understood from a strategic submarine patrol, we have a base, we have a channel that moves us to an open operating area. And then that open operating area is where we perform our mission. In that book Wreckit man’s the same structure for life. We have a base that is our purpose. We have a channel, which is our vision. And then we have an operating channel, which is our mission, where we perform the things that we need to do that are tied to a purpose. So it creates a strategic mission. Rhythm For Life and for us to fulfill our purpose, and that’s inside the book, the principles of operation has a lot to do with how we’re performing our mission and optimizing our lives when we’re pursuing our purpose.

Gary Pinkerton 22:14
Understood, so, the rhythm though, pretty important, and that I think is something that you’ve taken away from the qualification process from being successful in school and in business. Like I have that rhythm. You know, taking small bites, never moving backwards, always, you know, reaching, you know, having a goal and having some measuring stick to be able to be moving in the right direction. I’m not sure that’s the rhythm you’re you’re talking about with this, but that’s one of the things that is always hit me closely about any service and their qualification process. And I’m sure it’s the same for first responders. You know, you’re you’re constantly qualifying for the next level. And the only way that you can do that without losing your mind is is to, you know, have a rhythm have a process Have a weekly kind of routine that you’re doing in a daily routine. And just keep chipping away at it.

RT Stokes 23:06
Correct? Right. Yeah.

Gary Pinkerton 23:08
Awesome. Well, Artie, this has been great. tell everyone how they can contact you, as well as get your book.

RT Stokes 23:16
Sure, the one of the best ways to contact me is on LinkedIn. I’m also available on other social media networks. If you go to Artie stokes.com, Archie Stokes calm, you’ll be able to find all of my contact information there. The book is available in major distribution channels, Amazon, iTunes, or any other major bookstores, you can go and order the book and it will be delivered to you.

Gary Pinkerton 23:41
Awesome, man. Artie, I also have to commend you for the cover man. That’s a pretty cool looking book cover. motivating right off right from the book cover. So I look forward to reading it. It’s been a complete pleasure. Really appreciate you spending the time with us. I’m sure you’re pretty busy here with the launch coming up are having just a

RT Stokes 24:01
It was an honor to be on your show. I would like to thank you for the invitation. And I truly appreciate the time that we spent together today.

Gary Pinkerton 24:06
Absolutely, man, I know I have a new good friend here. And I look forward to having you back and talking about you know how the first year or so went on with the book.

RT Stokes 24:15
Thank you. I look forward to talking to you again.

Gary Pinkerton 24:18
Absolutely. Bye bye.

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